19 November 2016

City Update | Leave No Trace

Park Ranger Joya Szalwinski and Leave No Trace Traveling Trainer Alex Roberts explain the importance of packing out your trash in preserving the Sonoran ...

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>> HELLO, I'M NATHALIE GAGE WITH PHXTV. WELCOME TO ANOTHER EPISODE OF "CITY UPDATE." NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC HAS RATED PHOENIX ONE OF THE FIVE BEST CITIES IN THE NATION FOR HIKING. THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY BEAUTIFUL PARKS AND HIKING TRAILS HERE, RIGHT IN THE CITY, FOR HIKERS TO ENJOY, WHETHER THEY'RE NOVICES OR ADVANCED HIKERS. AND TODAY, WE'RE HERE WITH CITY PARK RANGER JOYA SZALWINSKI, AND ALEX ROBERTS, WHO IS A SUBARU "LEAVE NO TRACE" TRAVELING TRAINER, AND WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE "LEAVE NO TRACE" PROGRAM, AND HOW THAT IMPACTS PARKS HERE IN THE CITY OF PHOENIX, AND AROUND THE COUNTRY. WELCOME. >> HI, HOW ARE YOU? >> I'M GOOD, HOW ARE YOU? JOYA, COULD YOU EXPLAIN IN YOUR OWN WORDS WHAT IS THE "LEAVE NO TRACE" PROGRAM? >> "LEAVE NO TRACE" IS A PROGRAM THAT FOSTERS UNDERSTANDING OF MINIMIZING IMPACT AS PEOPLE ARE RECREATING IN THEIR PARKS AND PRESERVES. LIKE YOU SAID, WE'RE SUPER LUCKY HERE IN PHOENIX TO HAVE ALL THESE PARKS AND PRESERVES SURROUNDING US, BUT I THINK SOMETIMES PEOPLE TAKE IT FOR GRANTED. PEOPLE LOSE SIGHT OF THE FACT THAT THESE ARE LITTLE ISLANDS WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO SAVE HABITAT FOR NATIVE WILDLIFE. SO THE "LEAVE NO TRACE" PROGRAM WILL HELP PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT RESPECTING WILDLIFE WILL HELP PRESERVE THIS AREA. PART OF THAT MAY BE KEEPING YOUR DOG ON A LEASH, STAYING ON THE TRAILS, AND STUFF LIKE THAT. WE'VE ASKED A "LEAVE NO TRACE" TRAVELING TRAINERS TO COME AND

HELP US SPREAD THE WORD ON HOW TO MINIMIZE THESE IMPACTS, AND HOW TO KEEP THESE AREAS PRISTINE FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS TO COME. >> WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME IS "LEAVE NO TRACE" ISN'T JUST ABOUT PICKING UP TRASH, BUT IT'S ONE ELEMENT OF THIS PROGRAM. WHEN YOU SAY MINIMIZING IMPACT ON PARKS, HOW DOES HOW I INTERACT WITH OTHER VISITORS IMPACT THE PARK? BEING CONSIDERATE OF OTHERS IS ONE PART OF THIS PROGRAM. BUT I DON'T SEE HOW THAT FITS INTO A GREATER WHOLE OF LEAVING NO TRACE. >> ONE OF THE PRINCIPLES OF "LEAVE NO TRACE" IS BEING CONSIDERATE OF OTHER VISITORS. WE ARE THE SIXTH LARGEST CITY IN AMERICA, IN PHOENIX. YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY HIKER. YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY MOUNTAIN BIKER. YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY EQUESTRIAN USER. THERE ARE ETIQUETTES THAT YOU NEED TO MAINTAIN ON THE TRAIL SO YOU AVOID CONFLICTS. FOR INSTANCE, SOMEBODY WHO'S RIDING A MOUNTAIN BIKE NEEDS TO BE AWARE THAT THERE MAY BE SMALL CHILDREN OR DOGS ON THE TRAIL. THEY NEED TO BE AWARE THAT THEY MIGHT COME AROUND THE CORNER AND SEE SOMEBODY ON HORSEBACK. A HORSE IS AN ANIMAL. YOU DON'T WANT IT TO REACT UNEXPECTEDLY. PART OF BEING CONSIDERATE OF OTHER VISITORS IS UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU NEED TO TAKE CARE WHILE YOU'RE OUT THERE, RESPECT THE OTHER PERSON'S EXPERIENCE AS THEY'RE RECREATING IN THE PARK. THEY'RE COMING HERE TO HAVE A GOOD TIME. SO IF YOU'RE ON A MOUNTAIN BIKE, SLOW DOWN, YIELD TO EVERYTHING. A MOUNTAIN BIKER YIELDS TO EVERYTHING. JUST TO BE AWARE OF OTHER PEOPLE AND THE EXPERIENCE THAT THEY

WANT TO HAVE. DO NOT RUIN IT FOR THEM. >> SO ALEX, WE'RE HERE IN PHOENIX, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LOVELY PARKS HERE IN PHOENIX. EVALUATING YOUR IMPACT AS A PARK-GOER ON PARKS ISN'T JUST A LOCAL ISSUE. IT'S A NATIONAL ISSUE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY AROUND THE COUNTRY SHOULD BE THINKING OF IN TERMS OF PRESERVING THEIR PARKS AND MAKING THAT EXPERIENCE ENJOYABLE FOR EVERYONE. TELL ME WHAT YOU DO AS A TRAVELING TRAINER TO ENCOURAGE THAT KIND OF BEHAVIOR AND AWARENESS? >> AS A TRAVELING TRAINER, WE WORK FOR THE "LEAVE NO TRACE" CENTER FOR OUTDOOR ETHICS. AND SUBARU IS OUR TITLE SPONSOR. WE'RE A MOBILE EDUCATION PROGRAM. WE GET TO GO AROUND THE COUNTRY, WORKING WITH LAND MANAGERS, AND TALKING WITH DIFFERENT VISITORS AND RECREATIONISTS ABOUT HOW WE CAN ALL BE STEWARDS OF THESE SPECIAL PLACES, KEEP SPECIAL PLACES SPECIAL FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. >> JOYA, JUST A QUICK QUESTION REGARDING TRASH IN PARKS AND THINGS OF THIS SORT. USUALLY, DEDICATED CAMPERS UNDERSTAND THAT GOING TO A CAMP SITE, EVERYTHING THEY BRING IN, THEY HAVE TO BRING OUT. BUT I THINK PEOPLE CONSIDER PARKS LIKE THESE, LIKE NORTH MOUNTAIN, LIKE A DAY TRIP. "I CAN JUST GO IN AND MAYBE I LEAVE A SODA CAN BEHIND, BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT." HOW BIG OF A PROBLEM IS IT WITH RESIDENTS GOING TO THE PARK NOT UNDERSTANDING THAT THOSE SAME KINDS OF RULES APPLY HERE AS

THEY WOULD OUT IN THE GREATER WILDERNESS AREA? >> I DON'T THINK IT'S A MATTER OF VISITORS NOT UNDERSTANDING IT. I THINK IT'S A MATTER OF NOT CARING, QUITE FRANKLY. THESE PARKS HERE ARE CONSIDERED FRONT COUNTRY PARKS. THEY'RE DAY USE. WE DON'T HAVE ANY OVERNIGHT CAMPING HERE, SO PEOPLE ARE COMING IN. BECAUSE IT'S DAY USE, IT'S EASY TO ACCESS. WE GET A HIGH VISITATION RATE. SO THINGS ARE GOING TO FALL OUT OF PACKS NATURALLY. THAT COULD BE ACCIDENTAL. BUT WE FIND SOME TRASH OUT THERE. WE DON'T FIND A LOT OF TRASH, BUT PEOPLE ARE OFTENTIMES, WITH THE WATER BOTTLES, THEY DON'T WANT TO CARRY IT ANY MORE, SO THEY'LL PITCH IT ON THE GROUND. IT'S JUST REMEMBERING, IT IS AN URBAN AREA. IT IS AN URBAN ENVIRONMENT. WE NEED TO TAKE CARE. AND IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE OF HOW UNAESTHETIC IT WOULD LOOK TO HAVE TRASH ON THE GROUND, BUT THE IMPACT THAT LITTERED WATER BOTTLES WOULD HAVE TO WILDLIFE. FOR INSTANCE, THERE'S A WATER BOTTLE, PLASTIC WATER BOTTLE SITTING IN THE SUN, AND A LIZARD CRAWLS IN. NOW THE LIZARD CAN'T CRAWL OUT. GUESS WHAT HAPPENS? HE HEATS UP AND DIES IN THERE. SO THERE'S MORE TO IT THAN "THERE'S A PIECE OF TRASH." THERE'S IMPACT TO WILDLIFE THAT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT REALIZE. >> ALEX, YOU'RE TRAVELING AROUND THE NATION TO GET THIS MESSAGE

OUT. WHAT KIND OF RESPONSE ARE YOU GETTING FROM THE AUDIENCES YOU ADDRESS? DO YOU THINK THIS MESSAGE IS GETTING OUT THERE? DO YOU THINK THERE IS AN INCREASED AWARENESS? GIVE ME A BAROMETER OF WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE. >> PEOPLE ARE REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THIS ETHIC OF STEWARDSHIP THAT "LEAVE NO TRACE" HELPS FOSTER. ACROSS THE COUNTRY, LAND MANAGERS SEEING RECORD NUMBERS OF VISITATION TO PARKS AROUND THE COUNTRY. WITH THAT INCREASED VISITORSHIP, WE NEED TO ALSO INCREASE THE LEVEL OF EDUCATION OF THOSE VISITORS TO THESE PARKS. "LEAVE NO TRACE" HAS SEVERAL PROGRAMS, INCLUDING THE TRAVELING TRAINER PROGRAM, TO INCREASE THAT LEVEL OF EDUCATION AND ETHIC OF STEWARDSHIP. >> DO YOU TALK TO STUDENTS, ADULTS? ARE THERE ANY PARTICULAR TARGET AUDIENCES YOU HAVE? >> "LEAVE NO TRACE" IS FOR EVERYONE. WE TALK TO PARK RANGERS. WE TALK TO FOLKS THAT ARE THERE ON A BIG, LONG, BACKPACKING MISSION. PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT FOR A DAY PICNIC. "LEAVE NO TRACE" IS ABSOLUTELY FOR EVERYONE AND EVERY OUTDOOR SETTING FOR EVERY SINGLE KIND OF RECREATION. >> JOYA, YOU TALKED ABOUT SOMETIMES PEOPLE JUST DON'T NECESSARILY CARE, OR THEY'RE KIND OF THOUGHTLESS WHEN THEY GO INTO THESE PARKS. BUT I'VE KIND OF OBSERVED THAT PEOPLE REALLY DO LOVE THE PARKS HERE IN PHOENIX. LIKE WE MENTIONED, THEY ARE ACCESSIBLE, THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL,

AND LOVELY. TALK JUST ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK THESE PARKS MEAN TO THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE. MAYBE THAT'S A POSITIVE MESSAGE THAT SOME OF THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT ASSESSING THEIR IMPACT ARE OUTLIERS. BUT REALLY, THE COMMUNITY AT WHOLE IS MORE WILLING TO TAKE CARE OF THESE PARKS, AND TREAT THEM LIKE THE RESOURCE THEY ARE. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE VALUE OF THESE PARKS TO THE COMMUNITY? >> I THINK THE VALUE IS HUGE. LOOK AT THE VISITATION THAT WE HAVE OF PEOPLE COMING IN HERE. I'M NOT HERE TO IMPLY THAT PEOPLE ARE WANTONLY CARELESS WITH IT, BUT I THINK SOMETIMES IF YOU'RE OVERHEATED OR YOU'RE OVERTIRED AND YOUR BOTTLE IS EMPTY, AND MAYBE YOU WILL NOT GIVE IT A SECOND THOUGHT. WE JUST NEED TO TAKE MORE CARE WITH WHAT WE DO, AND HOW WE DISPOSE OF TRASH. LIKE WE MENTIONED BEFORE, THE IMPLICATIONS OF MINIMIZING YOUR IMPACTS ARE BEYOND LEAVING TRASH OUT THERE. STAYING ON THE TRAIL, SO YOU DON'T MAKE SPIDER TRAILS, YOU DON'T COMPACT THE SOIL. SO YOU DON'T HAVE THAT UNSIGHTLY NATURE. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS TO IT. PEOPLE DO LOVE THESE PARKS. I THINK PEOPLE ARE REALLY USED TO IT. THEY COME HERE OFTEN. THEY JUST NEED TO REMEMBER, IT'S HABITAT FOR NATIVE WILDLIFE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE. WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT FOR THEIR CHILDREN AND THEIR CHILDREN'S CHILDREN. SO HELPING TO MINIMIZE THEIR IMPACTS NOW IS GOING TO HELP FOR

THEIR KIDS IN THE FUTURE. I'M SURE THEY WANT THEIR KIDS TO BE OUT HERE. >> VERY GOOD. ALEX, JUST ONE MORE QUESTION. IS THERE SOME PLACE WE COULD GO ONLINE TO GET SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT "LEAVE NO TRACE"? OR GET SOME HELPFUL TIPS HOW WE CAN MINIMIZE OUR IMPACT IN THE PARKS, NOT JUST HERE, BUT AROUND THE NATION, WHEREVER WE MIGHT HAPPEN TO TRAVEL? >> ABSOLUTELY. "LEAVE NO TRACE," LNT.ORG IS OUR WEBSITE. WHEREVER YOU'RE VISITING, GENERALLY THEY HAVE A WEBSITE WITH SOME GREAT RESOURCES AND INFORMATION ON HOW TO LEAVE NO TRACE IN THAT SPECIFIC PARK IN THAT SPECIFIC AREA. THAT'S ALWAYS A GREAT PLACE TO START. >> ALEX, JOYA, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING OUT HERE TODAY. THAT WAS REALLY VALUABLE INFORMATION. I THINK IT SERVES US ALL WELL TO REMEMBER THAT WE HAVE AN IMPACT WHEN WE'RE OUT HERE ON THE PARKS, AND WE NEED TO BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT THAT, AND WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL STEWARDS TO PRESERVE THESE PARKS FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. THESE PARKS ARE AN EXCELLENT RESOURCE HERE IN THE CITY OF PHOENIX. PLEASE COME CHECK OUT ANY ONE OF THE PARKS IN THE ENTIRE URBAN AREA BY VISITING PHOENIX.GOV/PARKS. I'M NATHALIE GAGE WITH PHXTV. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FOR ANOTHER EPISODE OF "CITY UPDATE." CLOSED CAPTION PRODUCTIONS ccproductions.com 844-335-0911